Published in 1973, Susan Cooper’s The Dark Is Rising feels in many ways like the OG Harry Potter — in it, a young, seemingly average British boy learns on the eve of his eleventh birthday that his fate is much bigger than he ever could have imagined. In Episode 25, Alli (a total newbie to this series!) and guest Erica Berger discuss everything from spiritual energetic centers and childhood nostalgia to Star Wars and modern politics. Are the lines between dark and light really so clear? Is it more important for kid protagonists to learn by making mistakes or by beating impossible odds? Tune in to hear what they think! Hear more from journalist, host, strategist, and investor Erica on the TBD Podcast. Follow her on Twitter (@GoodBerger).