Vanessa and Casper explore the theme of Independence in chapter eight of Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows. This week Vanessa shares a cautionary tale of Crystal Light and we discuss the magic of wizard wedding, Luna’s relationship with her father, and Elphias Doge’s love for Dumbledore. Throughout the episode we consider the question: what do we risk by giving up our independence?

Thanks to Selia who sent in this week’s voicemail! Next week we’re reading chapter nine, A Place to Hide, through the theme of Relief.

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